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Pioneer KURO 60" Class 1080p Flat-Panel Plasma HDTV

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or more miles to the point of delivery.

The 6020 was ordered on Sunday and delivered the following Friday. For whatever reason, the order was not coded as `White Glove Delivery'. I eventually prevailed and the delivery was delivered `White Glove'. Regardless of how handy you are, `White Glove delivery' is extremely important. This type of delivery service requires the delivery team to setup and turn on the TV. When a shipment is left at your door it can be defective and you do not discover this until well after the delivery team has left. If you receive a defective TV with `White Glove Delivery', one simply refuses delivery; the delivery team will repackage the device and return it to Amazon. Without `White Glove Delivery' one is stuck with a defective TV and must endure the process of repackaging, storing and returning it.

When the team unpackaged my first set the screen was covered with spider cracks. The device was repackaged and back it went to Amazon. If there is an issue with the delivery, I encourage you to call the returns department at Amazon that handles Plasma TV's. There is a special telephone number. If you reach an overseas Amazon representative ask for the call to be transferred to this department. This department is located in the States. They are available 7 days a week but are not available round the clock. I ended up speaking with a tremendous representative who was a Supervisor. He made sure that a new order was processed, the `White Glove Delivery' was coded clearly on the order and Amazon provided a substantial discount on the order due to the difficulties that were encountered. I received the replacement TV five days later on the following Wednesday. The TV was delivered in perfect condition. The `White Glove Delivery' team setup the TV turned it on and removed the packaging. I also received two other price reductions when Amazon dropped the price of the set in the following two weeks.

The issues I had could have happened from any vendor. The difference is that Amazon had a system in place which corrected that matter in an efficient manner with a minimum of inconvenience to me. Amazon also had the best price and delivery options.

The picture quality is stunning. I highly recommend the 6020 and Amazon as a reputable dealer.

I have included D Nice's technical review from the AVS forum to provide the in depth details of the performance of this TV.


Pioneer PDP 6020FD Review
Reviewed by D Nice

Overview
Kuro (Kuro), the Japanese word for black, defines the core of Pioneer's Project KURO. Prior to last year, consumers were not privy to have a digital flat panel display that consistently reproduced the absence of color (black). In June 2007, Pioneer released into the wild a PDP display series that was capable of an unheard minimum luminance level, 0.004fL. This new pinnacle in black level not only provided rich, succulent blacks that true videophiles have been yearning ever since the demise of CRT, it also was baseline for depth defying colors that to this day leaves me awestruck. By the end of 2007, the KURO series was herald as the "best display ever". Everyone thought that it would be years before another display hit the market capable of outshining the 2007 KURO series. No one knew that we would only have to wait 6 months........enter the PDP 6020FD.

Panel Design
The PDP 6020FD continues Pioneer's minimalistic, yet elegant figure with its 57 11/16" x 34 1/2" piano black acrylic bezel. Fit and finish is top notch although the overall build quality is less than last year's PDP 6010FD. Pioneer also managed to trim panel bulk by 20% leaving us with a slim, 3.7" depth display.

Features
The PDP 6020FD is equipped with 4 HDMI 1.3a ports (three on the back, one on the left input/control panel), 1 component, 1 S Video, 3 composite, and 1 VGA input. Although this sounds like a plethora of input options, it's actually less that what its predecessor offered. However, Pioneer now allows owners to label each input (a big plus). Also new this year on the non Elite KUROs is a network interface port that allows owners to connect and stream video (limited file types), music, and pictures from their home PC/laptop. Setup and use was a breeze on my network. However, computer challenged owners may have issues using this feature....especially if they have a home network firewall.

Pioneer has also included a new remote with the PDP 6020FD. Compared to last year's remote, the new remote sports a black covering and the layout is more user friendly with the channel and volume controls reversed from last year's layout (finally).
Everything about the PDP 6020 reflects the theme "KURO".....including the new menu GUI. Gone is the "Windows XP" like menu colors that I have been accustomed to surfing on the previous Pioneer generations. They have been replaced with a more "Windows Vista" like "KURO" GUI.
Thumbing through the new menu, one will find 7 Preset A/V picture modes and immediately notice a reduction of user controls. Unfortunately Pioneer has decided to strip the end user of the capability to change the color temperature, gamma, black/contrast enhancement features, and noise reduction.
Instead they chose to hardcode these features in what they call "the most effective combination".
Personally, I think this was a mistake on Pioneer's part. You NEVER, EVER, take away features that you offered in the previous generation. Pioneer is also rumored to has gone two steps further by deleting the RGB controls out of the Service Menu (not confirmed as of yet) and changing the sequence to access the Service Menu (confirmed). These "castrations" do not bold well for those who chose not to shell out more money for the Elite KUROs to "tweak" their panels more to their personal tastes and/or HD standards. Shame on you Pioneer.
I'm sure at this point the question that is on everyone's mind is "What does the removal of these items have on actual PQ?" Well let's find out..........

Picture Mode Overview

Optimum Mode
Out of the box, the PDP 6020FD is set to Optimum mode. Optimum mode is designed to constantly modify the contrast, brightness, color, tint, etc controls based on the room environment. This year, Pioneer added sound control to Optimum mode's "automatic" adjustments. PQ in this mode was good, but I could see edge enhancement on many scenes and test patterns. Although I could not get a completely accurate grayscale reading within this mode due to the constant adjustments, it averaged around 7400K. This will please most viewers during daytime and/or sports viewing as a "bluer" white is more pleasing and can add more "punch" to the picture. However, I do not recommend this mode for critical movie and/or night viewing. This mode is universal, regardless of input selection.

Performance Mode
Now, one would think that Performance mode would be the mode that makes the Pioneer 6020FD shine. Well, this is not the case and it's one of the worst A/V modes available on the
6020FD.Beyond its S shaped gamma curve (hump between 60 and 80% stimuli), this mode produced an 8600K average grayscale and crushed everything in the 0 10% stimuli range with the brightness control set to 0. This mode provides improved shadow detail with a brightness setting of +4, but it still is lacking somewhat. If a 6020 owner previously owed a LCD display, this mode would probably please him as it provides an extremely punchy picture with "crisp" (aka edge enhanced) highlights to boot. Critical viewers should stay away from this mode. This mode is universal, regardless of input selection.

Dynamic Mode
By all means, STAY AWAY from this mode!!!!!!! This mode is universal, regardless of input selection.

Movie Mode
This is the de facto mode on the PDP 6020FD. It sports an average grayscale of 6350 (6347 to be exact) and a 2.27 gamma. This A/V mode produces the most accurate picture I have ever seen on a non Elite Pioneer.......ever!!! All review material and PDP panel shoot out results were done using this mode. This mode is universal, regardless of input selection.

Sports Mode
This is an absolutely horrible A/V mode. Grayscale is well over 10K with non defeatable edge enhancement and an S shaped gamma curve to boot. This mode is universal, regardless of input selection.

Game Mode
This mode would have been a great mode if it did not have an 8K grayscale. Gamma is ok at
2.17 and it only has minor edge enhancement. This mode is universal, regardless of input selection.

Standard Mode
This is the only mode in which each individual A/V input can house discrete settings.
Unfortunately, this is the absolute worst A/V mode available on the 6020FD. It is similar to Performance mode, but crushed blacks far more. This is the first A/V mode I have ever encountered on any display that actually makes a 10% stimuli full field pattern look like a 0% stimuli pattern.

Measurements

Contrast Ratio
Again, all of the measurements were taken in Movie mode (after the 150 hour break in procedure), adjusted for the most accurate picture, and the Power Save mode was set to Off. On a 0% stimuli pattern, the 6020FD can get really dark. In fact, the pixels literally turn off after 30 seconds on this pattern. Technically speaking, this means the 6020FD is capable of an infinite On/Off contrast ratio. However, this 0fL idle luminance is not achievable beyond a 0% stimulus pattern and I will refrain from using the 0fL reading in my official numbers. Using a window pattern, I measured a peak contrast ratio of 38,900:1 (38.9fL peak white with an astonishing, pre 30 seconds 0% stimuli pattern, minimum luminance level of 0.001fL....the lowest my AEMC
813 can go). Full screen white contrast ratio measured 21,300:1 (21.3fL peak white, 0.001fL video black). ANSI came in at 14,600:1.

Grayscale
Grayscale averaged 6347 from 10 100% stimuli. Although this grayscale isn't true D65, I found it very pleasing to the eye and was hard pressed to see the slightly "redder" tone on regular content. Any RGB Service Menu tweaks on this PDP will yield an incremental improvement at best.

IRE Measurement
10 6138
20 6340
30 6356
40 6389
50 6370
60 6420
70 6347
80 6371
90 6362
100 6385

Color Points
Just like its predecessor, the PDP 6020FD's user menu does not house any controls that can be used to properly calibrate the colors. On top of that, Pioneer has again chosen to hardcode the
6020FD with a wider color gamut (Colorspace 1) which exceeds the reference HD Rec. 709 Colorspace. The actual color points are remarkably similar to the 6010FD, with oversaturated green and red primaries, greener yellow, and a redder magenta:

Viewing Angle
There was no visible drop off in contrast and color from extreme horizontal angles of 75° off axis. However, there is a slight brightness drop off from vertical angles above 60°. I must note that I had to be standing 2 feet in front of the panel to see this drop off.

Other Measurements
Dead pixels none
Screen uniformity Perfect
HDMI Overscan 0% with Dot by Dot and 2% with Full
Blacker than black Passed
Black level Excellent
Black level retention none
Video deinterlacing Excellent
Film deinterlacing Passed 3:2/ 2:2 cadence in all resolutions
Viewing angle Excellent (> 150°)
Motion resolution 950
Digital noise reduction Very good (HD content)
Sharpness Defeatable edge enhancement (Movie mode only)
Image retention Very minor before 150 hour break in. Zero after.
Posterization Minor with HD cable
1080p/24 capability Yes. No telecine judder

Performance
"My God! It's full of stars" would be the slogan I'd use to summarize the 6020FDs performance.
Flanked to the left of a TH50PZ800u and below my Elite 1150HD, the 6020FD presented a picture that neither could fully replicate. Throughout the entire comparison, the following words stayed in my mind: smoooooth, clear, sophisticated, intoxicating.

Dark Room HD DVD and BD Performance
The 6020FD's 0.001fL black level created an eerie void adjacent to the other PDPs. I've never seen this much depth and shadow detail on a digital display. Watching Blackout destroy Soccent
Airbase on the HD DVD presentation of Transformers, the black level difference between the
6020FD and the 50PZ800u was not subtle, it was dramatic. Black levels on the 6020FD made the
PZ800u's blacks (measured @ 0.008fL) look like a dark shade of gray. The top and bottom bars literally disappeared into the 6020FD's screen. In comparison, I could always make out the bars on the 50PZ800u, but their luminance was subtle and much improved over previous Panasonic generations. Colors during the movie just looked better on the 6020FD. Although the 50PZ800u was fully calibrated to D65 and had better primary color plots, the 6020FD had a certain quality the Panasonic just didn't quite have: a creamy smoothness to the image. And this feeling remained seared into my sub conscious; even though the numbers say otherwise. Getting within 1.5 feet of the 6020 and 50PZ800u, I could see an ever so slight level of noise on the 50PZ800u screen. Engaging the Video NR filter on the Panasonic removed the noise, but killed some of the high frequency detail. The 6020s picture was void of any and all noise. Kudos goes to Pioneer for their hardcoded NR filters being setup just right for HD content.
Switching to 2001 on BD, the 6020FD continued to create exceptionally dynamic images with life like clarity, super sharp, and super smooth frames. The white ships on the star filled space backdrop had much more pop compared to both the 1150HD and 50PZ800u. Black bars again disappeared into the background of the 6020FDs panel, unlike the very, very slight luminance on the 1150HD (measured @ 0.004fL). Compared to the 1150HD, the 6020 can go brighter when the scene calls for it. For instance, the space station lobby scene with the red chairs looked noticeably brighter on the 6020 compared to the 1150HD. For reference, both were calibrated to roughly 39fL peak light output.
Watching Pirates of the Caribbean: At Worlds End, the 6020 once again spanked the 1150HD in overall brightness level. Watching the Black Pearl float in the white sands of Davy Jones's
Locker, the sand was actually too bright on the 6020FD for my tastes. I actually had to engage
Power Save Mode 1 to keep the brightness at bay.

Dark Room SD DVD Performance
Feeding all three panels a 480i presentation of Sin City, the 6020FD finally showed some weakness. Although black levels and dynamic range were far superior on the 6020FD, my
1150HD produced a sharper image. Goldie's facial details were much more pronounced on my
1150. Continuing on with Finding Nemo, Aliens, Star Wars Episode III, and Lord of the Rings
Return of the King produced the same "softer" results. The 50PZ800u with the same material was either on par or slightly worse compared to the 6020FD. I'm not sure if the lack of sharpness is due to Pioneer coding different NR levels on 480i/p signals or 768p vs 1080p native screen resolution. This is something I'll have to revisit once I test a 9G Pioneer Elite.

HD Cable Performance
The 6020FD presented 1080i/720p in the same fashion as HD DVD and BD presentations except that it showed me every single thing that was wrong with the compressed HD signals that broadcasters are shoving down our throats. Although the 6020FD was capable of showing the tiniest bits of details in static 1080i images, moving scenes were riddled with macroblocking and other picture artifacts. Dot by dot mode reduced some of these artifacts. However, it failed to give me the same pristine picture my 1150HD was simultaneously showing. The 50PZ800u weathered the same issues as the 6020FD. I guess 1300 compressed lines of resolution from a
SA8300HD cable box doesn't bold well on 1080p displays.

SD Cable Performance
SD cable viewing on the 6020FD was just as disappointing as SD DVD performance. Once again the 6020 presented a softer, less tasteful picture compared to my 1150HD. Watching SD channels with either Wide or Cinema stretch modes was at times annoying due to the soft picture and took time to get use to. Artifacts could easily be seen, regardless of channel. I know many will say that SD cable will always look "poor at best" on a 1080p display. However, I think the people deserve a little better than what the 602FD can muster.

Daytime Performance
The 6020FD really shines in low lighting environments. However, its daytime performance isn't anything to balk at. Pioneer's AR coating kept reflections at bay and on par with my 1150HD.
The Panasonic 50PZ800u didn't bold as well. Black levels remained inky, but I know that a
Samsung LCD would have provided "bezel blacks" due to its AR coating design. Never less, I would not call the blacks on the 6020FD during the daytime (with lots of ambient light, I might add) "grey", "blue", or any other color besides black. The 6020FD's improved brightness was most valuable during daytime viewing keeping the whites of snow peaked mountains and the ice rinks on hockey games bright and glistening.

Anomalies
There were a number of "bugs" reported with last year's KURO series. Pioneer did address most of these issues, but did not fix all of them (even after I was told that they were corrected): Blotching Still present. Only visible on a completely black screen.
Pure Cinema ADV Screen Dimming Fixed
Pure Cinema ADV Screen Flicker Fixed
Buzzing Power supply buzz has been corrected. Panel buzz is negligible.



Conclusion
The 6020FDs introduction poised many challenges for Pioneer. Could Pioneer improve on a series that has won more awards than I have fingers to count? Could Pioneer drop the minimum luminance level of a PDP that to date, no other manufacturer has yet equaled or surpassed? Could Pioneer create a PDP that expresses a voluptuous color pallet that is second to none? Is it possible? Overall, I would have to say yes. The 6020FD will quench any potential owner's thirst for unparalleled picture quality like no other display I've encountered. Mouthwatering colors, mystifying black levels coupled with mind boggling contrast dynamics. Unfortunately, the 6020FD is not without flaws: soft SD PQ performance, paltry number of user picture controls....especially on a $5,500 TV, A/V picture mode performance (minus Movie and Optimum mode) that you would expect on a Vizio, Olevia, or other cheap display. However, the 6020FDs overall presentation in Movie mode is second to none. I'll end this on a
Will Smith quote from Independence Day:
"I have GOT to get me one of these!!!!"

Pioneer KURO 60" Class 1080p Flat-Panel Plasma HDTV

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upconverts my Cox Cable box's 1080i signal. So far no issues. Ditto with the Playstation 3 that's also connected through the 1018. I'm not a big gamer, but MetalGear Solid 4 looks amazing on this TV.

A big thumbs up for the PDP-6020, and kudos to Amazon for taking good care of me on the delivery.

Pioneer KURO 60" Class 1080p Flat-Panel Plasma HDTV

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upconverts my Cox Cable box's 1080i signal. So far no issues. Ditto with the Playstation 3 that's also connected through the 1018. I'm not a big gamer, but MetalGear Solid 4 looks amazing on this TV.



A big thumbs up for the PDP-6020, and kudos to Amazon for taking good care of me on the delivery.

Pioneer KURO 60" Class 1080p Flat-Panel Plasma HDTV

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upconverts my Cox Cable box's 1080i signal. So far no issues. Ditto with the Playstation 3 that's also connected through the 1018. I'm not a big gamer, but MetalGear Solid 4 looks amazing on this TV.





A big thumbs up for the PDP-6020, and kudos to Amazon for taking good care of me on the delivery.

Pioneer KURO 60" Class 1080p Flat-Panel Plasma HDTV

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upconverts my Cox Cable box's 1080i signal. So far no issues. Ditto with the Playstation 3 that's also connected through the 1018. I'm not a big gamer, but MetalGear Solid 4 looks amazing on this TV.







A big thumbs up for the PDP-6020, and kudos to Amazon for taking good care of me on the delivery.

Pioneer KURO 60" Class 1080p Flat-Panel Plasma HDTV

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to go to the TV first and only send audio to the AV Receiver if I choose to use its 5.1/7.1 sound. Otherwise I like to use the TV's speaker. The issue is I don't want to wake everyone up with the loud sounds if I want to watch something and the family is sleeping. The 6020FD makes this a little easier as the optical output produces audio for everything except "protected" content (whatever that means). I haven't found any on my Blue Ray disks (via PS3). However I wish there were more HDMI ports on the back so I could hook all my (current and future) devices up directly.

Hopefully with the Ethernet port there will be a firmware update so I can access the display from my Apple Macs and maybe the new Amazon media store.

Pioneer has built a nice tuner. However the TV guide is now gone. Unfortunately the tuner is kind of a waste given that there is no point in buying this set unless you'll have HD content from your cable or satellite provider.

So far, I'm very happy.

Now I just have to find a universal remote to control the 6020, Comcast STB/DVR, Mitsubishi DVD player and PS3 (and next an Apple TV).

P.S. The Onkyo SR606 AV Receiver works great with this set.

XUT-3760 Universal Tilting Flat Screen Display Mount - For Displays Up to 60"

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on them. It mounted easily to my plasma tv (panasonic) and to the wall. In fact, mounting is top notch and strong (your tv won't fall off if you do everything right) with all the necessary items-even lag screws to mount to the wall studs (not something included with my previous tv mounts). This product is similar in appearance to the peerless mounts and similar in design to most of the tilting mounts you'll see in the big box stores--just at a much better price thru Real Home Theaters (amazon was sold out). The product seems strong and works as well as advertised, and the price can't be beat. What I'm struck by though is the lack of packaging and absence of ANY identification on it. You can't even buy clothes that don't have 6" gaudy manufacturer's names all over them. In today's world you worry a little about being a bootleg, but I don't see any signs of poor craftsmanship or corners cut so perhaps they sell direct without all the identification to keep prices down? You would just think they would have their name on the instructions, an address or phone number or website printed somewhere, anywhere in case of questions or to buy another in the future. Maybe their sold in bulk directly to home theater installers and not meant for direct to the public? Not even a sticker on the wall mount. Just seemed weird to me. But once I was over the shock of receiving a mount that looked nothing like I expected, had no reference at all anywhere as to the manufactuere, I set it up and it works as advertised. Side to side motion for final positioning is limited to only a cople inches on my 50" and I would suspect there's hardly any latitude at all on a larger tv (and conversely much more on a smaller tv--I suspect this movement is not at all an engineered idea to allow you flexibility, but simply a result of the one size fits all design that happens to coincidentally allow some movement on tvs smaller than the maximum size), but it is nice to have a few inches of play right to left, at least to get it centered just perfect for those of us who are compulsive. So, in summary, it's strong, it mounts to my plasma tv as promised without a hitch, mounts to the wall with lots of flexibility for those who have to mount to pre-existing stud placement, and tilts smoothly. Just don't bee suprised when what you thought you would get isn't, and I just can't figure out why there isn't any mention of the manufacturer and certainly no way to contact them without a bit of googling first. Hmmm.

Pioneer KURO 60" Class 1080p Flat-Panel Plasma HDTV

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on them. It mounted easily to my plasma tv (panasonic) and to the wall. In fact, mounting is top notch and strong (your tv won't fall off if you do everything right) with all the necessary items-even lag screws to mount to the wall studs (not something included with my previous tv mounts). This product is similar in appearance to the peerless mounts and similar in design to most of the tilting mounts you'll see in the big box stores--just at a much better price thru Real Home Theaters (amazon was sold out). The product seems strong and works as well as advertised, and the price can't be beat. What I'm struck by though is the lack of packaging and absence of ANY identification on it. You can't even buy clothes that don't have 6" gaudy manufacturer's names all over them. In today's world you worry a little about being a bootleg, but I don't see any signs of poor craftsmanship or corners cut so perhaps they sell direct without all the identification to keep prices down? You would just think they would have their name on the instructions, an address or phone number or website printed somewhere, anywhere in case of questions or to buy another in the future. Maybe their sold in bulk directly to home theater installers and not meant for direct to the public? Not even a sticker on the wall mount. Just seemed weird to me. But once I was over the shock of receiving a mount that looked nothing like I expected, had no reference at all anywhere as to the manufactuere, I set it up and it works as advertised. Side to side motion for final positioning is limited to only a cople inches on my 50" and I would suspect there's hardly any latitude at all on a larger tv (and conversely much more on a smaller tv--I suspect this movement is not at all an engineered idea to allow you flexibility, but simply a result of the one size fits all design that happens to coincidentally allow some movement on tvs smaller than the maximum size), but it is nice to have a few inches of play right to left, at least to get it centered just perfect for those of us who are compulsive. So, in summary, it's strong, it mounts to my plasma tv as promised without a hitch, mounts to the wall with lots of flexibility for those who have to mount to pre-existing stud placement, and tilts smoothly. Just don't bee suprised when what you thought you would get isn't, and I just can't figure out why there isn't any mention of the manufacturer and certainly no way to contact them without a bit of googling first. Hmmm.

Pioneer KURO 60" Class 1080p Flat-Panel Plasma HDTV

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on them. It mounted easily to my plasma tv (panasonic) and to the wall. In fact, mounting is top notch and strong (your tv won't fall off if you do everything right) with all the necessary items-even lag screws to mount to the wall studs (not something included with my previous tv mounts). This product is similar in appearance to the peerless mounts and similar in design to most of the tilting mounts you'll see in the big box stores--just at a much better price thru Real Home Theaters (amazon was sold out). The product seems strong and works as well as advertised, and the price can't be beat. What I'm struck by though is the lack of packaging and absence of ANY identification on it. You can't even buy clothes that don't have 6" gaudy manufacturer's names all over them. In today's world you worry a little about being a bootleg, but I don't see any signs of poor craftsmanship or corners cut so perhaps they sell direct without all the identification to keep prices down? You would just think they would have their name on the instructions, an address or phone number or website printed somewhere, anywhere in case of questions or to buy another in the future. Maybe their sold in bulk directly to home theater installers and not meant for direct to the public? Not even a sticker on the wall mount. Just seemed weird to me. But once I was over the shock of receiving a mount that looked nothing like I expected, had no reference at all anywhere as to the manufactuere, I set it up and it works as advertised. Side to side motion for final positioning is limited to only a cople inches on my 50" and I would suspect there's hardly any latitude at all on a larger tv (and conversely much more on a smaller tv--I suspect this movement is not at all an engineered idea to allow you flexibility, but simply a result of the one size fits all design that happens to coincidentally allow some movement on tvs smaller than the maximum size), but it is nice to have a few inches of play right to left, at least to get it centered just perfect for those of us who are compulsive. So, in summary, it's strong, it mounts to my plasma tv as promised without a hitch, mounts to the wall with lots of flexibility for those who have to mount to pre-existing stud placement, and tilts smoothly. Just don't bee suprised when what you thought you would get isn't, and I just can't figure out why there isn't any mention of the manufacturer and certainly no way to contact them without a bit of googling first. Hmmm.

Pioneer KURO 60" Class 1080p Flat-Panel Plasma HDTV

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on them. It mounted easily to my plasma tv (panasonic) and to the wall. In fact, mounting is top notch and strong (your tv won't fall off if you do everything right) with all the necessary items-even lag screws to mount to the wall studs (not something included with my previous tv mounts). This product is similar in appearance to the peerless mounts and similar in design to most of the tilting mounts you'll see in the big box stores--just at a much better price thru Real Home Theaters (amazon was sold out). The product seems strong and works as well as advertised, and the price can't be beat. What I'm struck by though is the lack of packaging and absence of ANY identification on it. You can't even buy clothes that don't have 6" gaudy manufacturer's names all over them. In today's world you worry a little about being a bootleg, but I don't see any signs of poor craftsmanship or corners cut so perhaps they sell direct without all the identification to keep prices down? You would just think they would have their name on the instructions, an address or phone number or website printed somewhere, anywhere in case of questions or to buy another in the future. Maybe their sold in bulk directly to home theater installers and not meant for direct to the public? Not even a sticker on the wall mount. Just seemed weird to me. But once I was over the shock of receiving a mount that looked nothing like I expected, had no reference at all anywhere as to the manufactuere, I set it up and it works as advertised. Side to side motion for final positioning is limited to only a cople inches on my 50" and I would suspect there's hardly any latitude at all on a larger tv (and conversely much more on a smaller tv--I suspect this movement is not at all an engineered idea to allow you flexibility, but simply a result of the one size fits all design that happens to coincidentally allow some movement on tvs smaller than the maximum size), but it is nice to have a few inches of play right to left, at least to get it centered just perfect for those of us who are compulsive. So, in summary, it's strong, it mounts to my plasma tv as promised without a hitch, mounts to the wall with lots of flexibility for those who have to mount to pre-existing stud placement, and tilts smoothly. Just don't bee suprised when what you thought you would get isn't, and I just can't figure out why there isn't any mention of the manufacturer and certainly no way to contact them without a bit of googling first. Hmmm.

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your TV!!!!!!!

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I would suppose as well as can be.

Amazon ordering is a snap, and the home delivery, while on the very outside of the estimate, was without hassles.

The 6010FD is a great display and, for me, Amazon was a great place to by it (note, the actual seller was 6ave via Amazon).

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this: If you live in the U.S. then get ready to speak to a guy from india who reads all of his answers from a monitor. HORRIBLE CUSTOMER SUPPORT!!After battleing the language barrier they finally sent me a new set (Oh and by the way, Amazon will not expedite shipping for you replacement, they make u wait another week or 2 for your replacement set.A week later the new set arrived and I could not believe it but they did not send white glove delivery again. I had to help unload the truck again!!And guess what? The box was damaged badly again.So we took the TV inside and tried to power it up and it was ANOTHER DEAD TV!Amazon uses Eagle (CEVA) to ship Televisions. They obviously do not handle with care.So I had to call amazon customer support AGAIN and deal with some guy from India who can't understand a word I am saying.Instead of dealing with this nightmare again, I requested a refund.It has been over a week and they still have not credited my credit card.So I guess I will have to call India again and deal with Amazons horrible customer support again.IF you are thinking of buying this TV from Amazon (AMAZON, not one of the dealers that sell on Amazon) DONT DO IT!!! You would be better off buying from someone who specializes in Televisions. They only use respectable delivery carriers and handle with care. Eagle (Ceva) is who amazon uses and they do no know how to handle fragile plasma displays that can be badly damaged if tipped over. They do not put a "tip and tell" sensor on the box like specialists do either. The reason i picked amazon was becasue of the 30 day return policy but what good is that policy if your TV never works in the first place.

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is about the equivalent of going from driving an rusty old Datsun with a rag for a gascap (for the Sandler fans) to upgrading to a Ferrari.

I was watching some of the island scenes from "Castaway" from an upscaling Sony DVD player on this TV and the color and clarity was so mindblowing, there were scenes that almost looked like they were jumping off the screen in 3-D. I also popped in Dream Theater's "Score" DVD, a concert that my wife and I attended live, and it was like being there at Radio City Music Hall all over again.

As just about every review you've seen here will attest, you pretty much can't go wrong with this TV and it's about as user friendly as can be even for the not-so-technically inclined. About my only complaint from that dynamic are all 4 HDMI ports being on a bottom panel in the back of the TV and a little tough to connect unless you're looking directly up at them. If you can afford it though, the Kuro is worth every penny and buying on Amazon saved me $2000 off retail and $1,000 off even the lowest local store price I could find.

Just as an aside having nothing to do with the TV itself, Amazon needs to seriously explore other freight shipping options as they currently use Eagle Logistics exclusively for freight and based on my experience with Eagle, they just plain suck at what they do. White glove service it certainly wasn't in my case. The local warehouse told me that they only have one 2-man team for larger shipments and it took them a full week to schedule delivery in my case (even after the 5 day wait for it to arrive at the local warehouse) and on the date we scheduled, they informed me that they would deliver between 10 am and 2 pm...The "2-man team" ended up showing up at 5:00 pm that day in the form of ONE man, so I had to help unload the truck. On the first delivery, we pulled out the screen only to find that it had spider cracks all the way across it as though someone had either dropped the box from about 3 feet in the air a couple of times or some warehouse guys took turns doing target practice on the box with a sledge hammer. I don't where it got mishandled, but someone had done a number on this thing. Fortunately, the second time was the charm, but they still couldn't schedule the 2-man team until a week after the shipment arrived locally, so we had them send a one man truck and helped him unload it again. Eagle also does not offer expedited delivery, so count on a week plus for these guys to get anything to your doorstep and don't be surprised when Larry, Darryl and Darryl show up minus Larry and Darryl.

Pioneer KURO 60" Class 1080p Flat-Panel Plasma HDTV

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is about the equivalent of going from driving an rusty old Datsun with a rag for a gascap (for the Sandler fans) to upgrading to a Ferrari.



I was watching some of the island scenes from "Castaway" from an upscaling Sony DVD player on this TV and the color and clarity was so mindblowing, there were scenes that almost looked like they were jumping off the screen in 3-D. I also popped in Dream Theater's "Score" DVD, a concert that my wife and I attended live, and it was like being there at Radio City Music Hall all over again.



As just about every review you've seen here will attest, you pretty much can't go wrong with this TV and it's about as user friendly as can be even for the not-so-technically inclined. About my only complaint from that dynamic are all 4 HDMI ports being on a bottom panel in the back of the TV and a little tough to connect unless you're looking directly up at them. If you can afford it though, the Kuro is worth every penny and buying on Amazon saved me $2000 off retail and $1,000 off even the lowest local store price I could find.



Just as an aside having nothing to do with the TV itself, Amazon needs to seriously explore other freight shipping options as they currently use Eagle Logistics exclusively for freight and based on my experience with Eagle, they just plain suck at what they do. White glove service it certainly wasn't in my case. The local warehouse told me that they only have one 2-man team for larger shipments and it took them a full week to schedule delivery in my case (even after the 5 day wait for it to arrive at the local warehouse) and on the date we scheduled, they informed me that they would deliver between 10 am and 2 pm...The "2-man team" ended up showing up at 5:00 pm that day in the form of ONE man, so I had to help unload the truck. On the first delivery, we pulled out the screen only to find that it had spider cracks all the way across it as though someone had either dropped the box from about 3 feet in the air a couple of times or some warehouse guys took turns doing target practice on the box with a sledge hammer. I don't where it got mishandled, but someone had done a number on this thing. Fortunately, the second time was the charm, but they still couldn't schedule the 2-man team until a week after the shipment arrived locally, so we had them send a one man truck and helped him unload it again. Eagle also does not offer expedited delivery, so count on a week plus for these guys to get anything to your doorstep and don't be surprised when Larry, Darryl and Darryl show up minus Larry and Darryl.

Pioneer KURO 60" Class 1080p Flat-Panel Plasma HDTV

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is about the equivalent of going from driving an rusty old Datsun with a rag for a gascap (for the Sandler fans) to upgrading to a Ferrari.





I was watching some of the island scenes from "Castaway" from an upscaling Sony DVD player on this TV and the color and clarity was so mindblowing, there were scenes that almost looked like they were jumping off the screen in 3-D. I also popped in Dream Theater's "Score" DVD, a concert that my wife and I attended live, and it was like being there at Radio City Music Hall all over again.





As just about every review you've seen here will attest, you pretty much can't go wrong with this TV and it's about as user friendly as can be even for the not-so-technically inclined. About my only complaint from that dynamic are all 4 HDMI ports being on a bottom panel in the back of the TV and a little tough to connect unless you're looking directly up at them. If you can afford it though, the Kuro is worth every penny and buying on Amazon saved me $2000 off retail and $1,000 off even the lowest local store price I could find.





Just as an aside having nothing to do with the TV itself, Amazon needs to seriously explore other freight shipping options as they currently use Eagle Logistics exclusively for freight and based on my experience with Eagle, they just plain suck at what they do. White glove service it certainly wasn't in my case. The local warehouse told me that they only have one 2-man team for larger shipments and it took them a full week to schedule delivery in my case (even after the 5 day wait for it to arrive at the local warehouse) and on the date we scheduled, they informed me that they would deliver between 10 am and 2 pm...The "2-man team" ended up showing up at 5:00 pm that day in the form of ONE man, so I had to help unload the truck. On the first delivery, we pulled out the screen only to find that it had spider cracks all the way across it as though someone had either dropped the box from about 3 feet in the air a couple of times or some warehouse guys took turns doing target practice on the box with a sledge hammer. I don't where it got mishandled, but someone had done a number on this thing. Fortunately, the second time was the charm, but they still couldn't schedule the 2-man team until a week after the shipment arrived locally, so we had them send a one man truck and helped him unload it again. Eagle also does not offer expedited delivery, so count on a week plus for these guys to get anything to your doorstep and don't be surprised when Larry, Darryl and Darryl show up minus Larry and Darryl.

Pioneer KURO 60" Class 1080p Flat-Panel Plasma HDTV

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two guys hung around until we had the stand put together and TV powered up. Overall very satisfied, especially being able to save $2000+ compared to Bestbuy.

Pioneer KURO 60" Class 1080p Flat-Panel Plasma HDTV

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two guys hung around until we had the stand put together and TV powered up. Overall very satisfied, especially being able to save $2000+ compared to Bestbuy.

Pioneer KURO 60" Class 1080p Flat-Panel Plasma HDTV

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two guys hung around until we had the stand put together and TV powered up. Overall very satisfied, especially being able to save $2000+ compared to Bestbuy.

Pioneer KURO 60" Class 1080p Flat-Panel Plasma HDTV

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it was comforting to know that Amazon was an authorized Pioneer dealer with an excellent return policy to boot. The TV arrived via EGL "white glove" delivery in record time (I ordered on a monday and it was delivered the following saturday!) It was brought up to my apartment, unpacked from the box and foam, and the stand was assembled on the spot. This was the best delivery experience I've ever had despite the fact that it was one of the largest and seemingly fragile. I'm glad Amazon uses EGL because they are truly a top notch and service-oriented company based on this experience.

Do I have anything bad to say about the TV? Not really. I can go on and on about how great it is but it won't be any different than what's already been said on the reviews you see online and on forums. But if I had to be nitpicky, I'd have to say that I wish the included stand was height-adjustable for when the user decides not to install the speaker when using a multi-channel setup. Without the speaker, the TV looks too perched-up with an exposed area beneath that is not very esthetic. The "Elite" version (PRO-150FD) has the shorter stand and from my understanding, will fit the PDP-6010FD but Pioneer wants $400 for one. There is also a slight buzz in my unit but it's very minor and to be honest, it's not any worse than most plasmas I've heard. Even low volume drowns it out so it was not a big issue. Perhaps I have just become accustomed to the many buzz-free LCD panels I've had. None of these nitpicks warrant detracting from the 5 stars I will give this TV.

One word of advice when you get this TV and plan on using it for gaming and viewing sources with lots of static images or aspect ratios that don't fill the whole screen: do a proper break-in. Yes this TV has an orbiter and all the new technology that prevents "burn-in" but regardless, image-retention can still be an issue even with the newest plasmas despite what some store sales person might tell you. If you do a search on the web, you will be able to find a free downloadable "plasma break-in dvd" that you burn on a dvd-r. The one I use runs for 24 hours and the recommended break-in is 100-150 hours. I've done the break-in and frequently play PS3 and Xbox 360 games and often view movies with 2.4:1 aspect ratios and standard definition 4:3 programming with the black side bars, and at least so far, no issues and none expected since the break-in was done properly.