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Background:
I wanted to buy the new unibody MacBook Pro.
Tried it at the Apple store and here are my findings and opinions,
and comparisons with the March 2008 model (MB134LL/A - the one I bought and am reviewing).
Display on unibody model is super glossy and very reflective - and has no option for matte finish.
Keyboard on unibody model did not feel as nice as the March 2008 model.
Unibody model is slightly larger - bezel width is more than the March 2008 Model.
Also, the March 2008 model is a lot cheaper (about $700),
and there is an additional $150 rebate from Amazon.
Meaningful specs difference:
2.5 GHz versus 2.53 GHz CPU in the new high end one,
2 Gigs of RAM versus 4 Gigs of faster RAM in the new high end (I upgraded to 4GB myself for $60),
8600M GT 512MB versus 9600M GT 512MB in the new high end (20-30% faster),
250GB 5400RPM versus 320GB 5400RPM in the new one (more on this below),
The new one also has dual graphics (use the lower power one for more battery),
but I'd always
I wanted to buy the new unibody MacBook Pro.
Tried it at the Apple store and here are my findings and opinions,
and comparisons with the March 2008 model (MB134LL/A - the one I bought and am reviewing).
Display on unibody model is super glossy and very reflective - and has no option for matte finish.
Keyboard on unibody model did not feel as nice as the March 2008 model.
Unibody model is slightly larger - bezel width is more than the March 2008 Model.
Also, the March 2008 model is a lot cheaper (about $700),
and there is an additional $150 rebate from Amazon.
Meaningful specs difference:
2.5 GHz versus 2.53 GHz CPU in the new high end one,
2 Gigs of RAM versus 4 Gigs of faster RAM in the new high end (I upgraded to 4GB myself for $60),
8600M GT 512MB versus 9600M GT 512MB in the new high end (20-30% faster),
250GB 5400RPM versus 320GB 5400RPM in the new one (more on this below),
The new one also has dual graphics (use the lower power one for more battery),
but I'd always
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I'd previously owned the first $1099 white Macbook that Apple introduced when the switched to using Intel chips. It was a good machine, but this one blows it out of the water. Not only does it take on some of its older brother's look, but it truly is an impressive machine with the the additional touch pad.
Pros:
- Beautiful, seamless design similar to the previous Macbook Pro aluminum design
- Easy to open compartment on the bottom for accessing the hard drive, battery, and RAM
- Doesn't get very "Hot." I've yet to think I need to put it on something when its on my lap, even despite watching DVDs or doing other intensive work.
- Quick little machine. As mentioned, blows my original Macbook out of the water
- Side Battery Readout
- Touch Pad (this is a plus and minus)
- Bright, LED screen (although its glossy, I personally prefer the matte finish)
- New Nvidia graphics chipset... Much better than the Intel GMA
Cons:
- Sometimes, for me, the track pad doesn't "click" (seems to be a known
Pros:
- Beautiful, seamless design similar to the previous Macbook Pro aluminum design
- Easy to open compartment on the bottom for accessing the hard drive, battery, and RAM
- Doesn't get very "Hot." I've yet to think I need to put it on something when its on my lap, even despite watching DVDs or doing other intensive work.
- Quick little machine. As mentioned, blows my original Macbook out of the water
- Side Battery Readout
- Touch Pad (this is a plus and minus)
- Bright, LED screen (although its glossy, I personally prefer the matte finish)
- New Nvidia graphics chipset... Much better than the Intel GMA
Cons:
- Sometimes, for me, the track pad doesn't "click" (seems to be a known
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+ Glossy LED display isn't as bad as I was worried about. Works just fine indoors. LED lighting easily overpowers any reflections you may have indoors (unless you're shining a flash light right on the screen). I haven't tried it outside, but I doubt it'll work at all. Then again, why am I trying to use my laptop outside? I usually like working at a desk! Or at least inside. Outside is for playing!
+ OSX Battery life right on target (5 hrs)
+ Form factor and size are really nice for the performance you get in this machine.
+ Plays Command Conquer Red Alert 3 (under Windows) at 1280 by 800 with medium detail like it's nothing.
+ Very nimble with multiple applications open
+ Installs XP Pro and Vista just fine. Bootcamp drivers and support already on the OSX DVD, so you don't need to burn anything. Just pop in the disc after Windows is done installing.
- Mini DisplayPort to VGA adapter tricky to set up at first:
- OSX doesn't let you configure your MacBook to output to external only.
+ OSX Battery life right on target (5 hrs)
+ Form factor and size are really nice for the performance you get in this machine.
+ Plays Command Conquer Red Alert 3 (under Windows) at 1280 by 800 with medium detail like it's nothing.
+ Very nimble with multiple applications open
+ Installs XP Pro and Vista just fine. Bootcamp drivers and support already on the OSX DVD, so you don't need to burn anything. Just pop in the disc after Windows is done installing.
- Mini DisplayPort to VGA adapter tricky to set up at first:
- OSX doesn't let you configure your MacBook to output to external only.
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I was wary of the glossy screen from the getgo, because I MUCH MUCh prefer matte screens. Funny thing is, it's actually the crappy viewing angle and overall dullness of the display that bugs me. Over the past couple of days I've used it quite a bit and my eyes are actually hurting me - when I got back on my 4-yr old iMac G5, I immediately, physically felt it was a more pleasurable user experience b/c of the display.
So I'm considering a return even though I actually love everything else - the keyboard, the new, bigger trackpad with the really cool and useful gestures, the overall design - this thing is a pleasure to use and look at in every way - except at the display itself. The other reviewers are correct in qualifying this as literally a disgrace - a flagrantly cheap, poor quality display on a flagship Apple product. Not good.
So I'm considering a return even though I actually love everything else - the keyboard, the new, bigger trackpad with the really cool and useful gestures, the overall design - this thing is a pleasure to use and look at in every way - except at the display itself. The other reviewers are correct in qualifying this as literally a disgrace - a flagrantly cheap, poor quality display on a flagship Apple product. Not good.
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I don't know what Apple is doing these days. They go on and on about how great the new one-piece machined 'unibody' construction is on these new Macbooks, but then they go and mess up on some really important basics.
1) No Firewire- Hey, this is an APPLE technology. They created it, and supported it for years. Lots of people used it, lots of people loved it. Now, all of a sudden, it's GONE from the Macbook, except for one old model that isn't going to be around much longer. Why? So if you need it, you can go shell out $2000 for a Macbook Pro? Just not a great way to treat your customers.
2) So-So screen- The Macbook screen isn't great. Now, the *backlighting* is good, and much brighter than the old Macbooks. But the screen itself? SUPER-glossy. Apple likes this because it makes the colors 'pop' (and they do), but at the same time, you get TONS of distracting, annoying reflections (you can use it as a makeup mirror) and oodles of very noticeable smudges, smears, and fingerprints.
And
1) No Firewire- Hey, this is an APPLE technology. They created it, and supported it for years. Lots of people used it, lots of people loved it. Now, all of a sudden, it's GONE from the Macbook, except for one old model that isn't going to be around much longer. Why? So if you need it, you can go shell out $2000 for a Macbook Pro? Just not a great way to treat your customers.
2) So-So screen- The Macbook screen isn't great. Now, the *backlighting* is good, and much brighter than the old Macbooks. But the screen itself? SUPER-glossy. Apple likes this because it makes the colors 'pop' (and they do), but at the same time, you get TONS of distracting, annoying reflections (you can use it as a makeup mirror) and oodles of very noticeable smudges, smears, and fingerprints.
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I don't know what Apple is doing these days. They go on and on about how great the new one-piece machined 'unibody' construction is on these new Macbooks, but then they go and mess up on some really important basics.
1) No Firewire- Hey, this is an APPLE technology. They created it, and supported it for years. Lots of people used it, lots of people loved it. Now, all of a sudden, it's GONE from the Macbook line, except for one old plastic model that isn't going to be around much longer. Why? So if you need it, you can go shell out $2000 for a Macbook Pro? Just not a great way to treat your customers, particularly long-time ones.
2) El cheapo screen- The Macbook screen is, to put it nicely, not great. Now, the *backlighting* is good, much brighter than the old Macbooks. But the screen itself? SUPER-glossy. Apple likes this because it makes the colors 'pop' a bit more, but the price for this is that you get TONS of very distracting, annoying reflections (you can use it as a makeup mirror)
1) No Firewire- Hey, this is an APPLE technology. They created it, and supported it for years. Lots of people used it, lots of people loved it. Now, all of a sudden, it's GONE from the Macbook line, except for one old plastic model that isn't going to be around much longer. Why? So if you need it, you can go shell out $2000 for a Macbook Pro? Just not a great way to treat your customers, particularly long-time ones.
2) El cheapo screen- The Macbook screen is, to put it nicely, not great. Now, the *backlighting* is good, much brighter than the old Macbooks. But the screen itself? SUPER-glossy. Apple likes this because it makes the colors 'pop' a bit more, but the price for this is that you get TONS of very distracting, annoying reflections (you can use it as a makeup mirror)
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Ok I would like to keep reviews short because most people will not read more than 1/2 of a pages.
1. Portability - 5.4 lbs. Coming from a guy that had a 2.7 lbs laptop, this is not much of a burden.
2. Power - 2.5Ghz Peryn 45nm 6MB caches. O did I mentioned that it is FAST? (Window & Mac).
Boot up time:
Mac: 35 seconds w/ bloated software.
Windows XP: 1:45 seconds w/ bloated software.
3. Graphics - 8600M GT 512MB GDDR3. I game on window and everything runs immaculately with medium settings on new games and max settings on older ones.
4. Battery life: I haven't needed to plug in the power supply when I am out on a day's work. ~4.5 Hours w/ normal use.
5. Software: Mac OSX is the way to go! Plus I get Xcode developer kit for free! Good for programmers.
6. LED Backlit LCD: Excellent. Can't say it is much improvement because my old laptop was also LED. Also 15.4 inches is refreshing. I use to have a 11.1 inches laptop and that was really arduous on my eyes at times.
7. Backlit Keyboard:
1. Portability - 5.4 lbs. Coming from a guy that had a 2.7 lbs laptop, this is not much of a burden.
2. Power - 2.5Ghz Peryn 45nm 6MB caches. O did I mentioned that it is FAST? (Window & Mac).
Boot up time:
Mac: 35 seconds w/ bloated software.
Windows XP: 1:45 seconds w/ bloated software.
3. Graphics - 8600M GT 512MB GDDR3. I game on window and everything runs immaculately with medium settings on new games and max settings on older ones.
4. Battery life: I haven't needed to plug in the power supply when I am out on a day's work. ~4.5 Hours w/ normal use.
5. Software: Mac OSX is the way to go! Plus I get Xcode developer kit for free! Good for programmers.
6. LED Backlit LCD: Excellent. Can't say it is much improvement because my old laptop was also LED. Also 15.4 inches is refreshing. I use to have a 11.1 inches laptop and that was really arduous on my eyes at times.
7. Backlit Keyboard:
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I ordered the standard 2.0ghz aluminum Macbook and received it last night. Immediately it was powered up and explored and everything works perfectly, although calibration of the display was not as easy as my PowerMac on a Cinemadisplay 20".
This morning after using the Macbook at work and turning it off, I noticed several white "specks" on the screen, one near the camera, another 1" away from the left border at the center of the screen, and another 2" diagonal to the right of the "Macbook" logo. I attempted to first blow the specks off which didn't work, so I attempted to wipe it with the cloth included in the box. That didn't work either. It turns out this is dust BEHIND the glass. I have owned several other laptops prior to this, and this is the first time I am experiencing a problem this small yet this obvious. For a perfectionist such as myself, it is a pretty big deal (Amazon rectified the situation for me).
Besides that, this laptop is probably the most solid feeling laptop
This morning after using the Macbook at work and turning it off, I noticed several white "specks" on the screen, one near the camera, another 1" away from the left border at the center of the screen, and another 2" diagonal to the right of the "Macbook" logo. I attempted to first blow the specks off which didn't work, so I attempted to wipe it with the cloth included in the box. That didn't work either. It turns out this is dust BEHIND the glass. I have owned several other laptops prior to this, and this is the first time I am experiencing a problem this small yet this obvious. For a perfectionist such as myself, it is a pretty big deal (Amazon rectified the situation for me).
Besides that, this laptop is probably the most solid feeling laptop
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I work as an IT manager, overseeing about 4000+ client computers. About one-fourth of them are Macs. I myself am a long-time Mac user, currently using a dual-quad Mac Pro and a 1st gen white MacBook, which I love both of them.
Full disclosure: I do not own this new MacBook (although I had planned to upgrade), but we bought several for evaluation purposes to determine whether they would be purchased in larger quantities. I have used one for almost a week now and have developed a love / hate relationship with them.
The Good:
The unibody is a beautiful design, and makes for a rigid and solid feeling notebook. I like the fact they've make it easier to perform hard drive and memory upgrades. The battery indicator on the side is a nice touch, instead of on the bottom, but I admit, I never used it that much, since I tend to check the battery life when it's on and I check it on the menu bar.
Once you get used to it, the new trackpad, it's a delight to use, and the new finger gestures are
Full disclosure: I do not own this new MacBook (although I had planned to upgrade), but we bought several for evaluation purposes to determine whether they would be purchased in larger quantities. I have used one for almost a week now and have developed a love / hate relationship with them.
The Good:
The unibody is a beautiful design, and makes for a rigid and solid feeling notebook. I like the fact they've make it easier to perform hard drive and memory upgrades. The battery indicator on the side is a nice touch, instead of on the bottom, but I admit, I never used it that much, since I tend to check the battery life when it's on and I check it on the menu bar.
Once you get used to it, the new trackpad, it's a delight to use, and the new finger gestures are
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Faster, lighter and stronger for starters. The backlit keyboard on the 2.4 GHz is great! The larger glass trackpad is amazing! The LED screen is very bright (completely adjustable) and comes on instantly from sleep. The new aluminum unibody case is solid, when you pick it up you can really tell the difference. The new integrated video card is noticeably faster than the previous model. Running Windows in Parallels Desktop 3.0 for Mac (Intel Mac) makes this laptop the only computer you will need, capable of running any Mac & Windows software, this comes in handy if you are switching from a PC or developing across platforms. I've had many laptops (personal and from work) and this one is the only one that I've ever felt was worth every penny. I highly recommend it!
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For my review I am going to organize this into positive and negative aspects of this new model based on my experience with both the old and new models, as well as a general understanding of what is available at this price point from PC manufactures (Dell, Sony, HP):
Pros:
1. LED screen, brighter, better battery life, better for the environment (no mercury).
2. 1066MHz frontside bus.
3. ~8x Better graphics performance than previous model.
4. Easy access to hard drive.
5. Half-pound lighter than previous model.
Cons:
1. No Firewire port. This means no target disk mode, or using minidv decks/cameras which require firewire. I feel this is a poor decision on Apple's part. This makes two of my hard drives useless without an adapter of some kind. One FW800 port would have been nice, and from an engineering point of view, they could have fit it in there.
3. No HDMI port (yet to see this on a mac).
4. No eSATA port (yet to see this on a mac).
5. 5400 rpm hard drive. Better HDD performance requires
Pros:
1. LED screen, brighter, better battery life, better for the environment (no mercury).
2. 1066MHz frontside bus.
3. ~8x Better graphics performance than previous model.
4. Easy access to hard drive.
5. Half-pound lighter than previous model.
Cons:
1. No Firewire port. This means no target disk mode, or using minidv decks/cameras which require firewire. I feel this is a poor decision on Apple's part. This makes two of my hard drives useless without an adapter of some kind. One FW800 port would have been nice, and from an engineering point of view, they could have fit it in there.
3. No HDMI port (yet to see this on a mac).
4. No eSATA port (yet to see this on a mac).
5. 5400 rpm hard drive. Better HDD performance requires
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I'd been waiting for these laptops since the introduction of Intel processors in Macs. The MacBook Pros used nearly the exact same case design for far too long. While I didn't think the MacBooks really needed a design refresh, I like the choices Apple made so much that I bought one. I like having a smaller laptop, though I do appreciate some of the additional features you get with a MacBook Pro. That said, many of the extra bells and whistles once left out of the MacBooks have found their way in and while I never really thought I'd care I have to say--it makes a huge difference.
Owning a new aluminum MacBook is a lot more like owning one of the old 12" Powerbooks. I used to have one and it was wonderful. It's probably the one discontinued Apple computer that's coveted by its owners. Their resale value is still fairly high, considering how comparatively slow they are. If you're a blogger or a writer and you don't use the machine for much else, it's sort of a best of breed. However,
Owning a new aluminum MacBook is a lot more like owning one of the old 12" Powerbooks. I used to have one and it was wonderful. It's probably the one discontinued Apple computer that's coveted by its owners. Their resale value is still fairly high, considering how comparatively slow they are. If you're a blogger or a writer and you don't use the machine for much else, it's sort of a best of breed. However,
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This notebook computer is a tour d'force by Apple. Having used several Windows notebooks over the years - ThinkPad, Compaq, Dell, Toshiba, Sony VAIO - this is my first Apple notebook. Although, I have lusted after Mac OS for years, it wasn't practical because most of my work software is Windows. Now, the ability to run Windows on Mac notebooks has changed that and we can have the best of both worlds. Amongst the Windows notebooks, ThinkPad has always been my favorite, and this MacBook is replacing ThinkPad X31.
MacBook is fast, feels very solid and sturdy, thin and has bright LED display with vivid colors and fast graphics. Some people are complaining about the glossy screen; but I found glare a problem only with bright light facing the screen. Battery life is decent, about 4 hours. Self adjusting screen brightness, depending upon ambient light, does not work very well and I had to turn it off. Backlit keyboard is excellent. You will like large multi-touch track pad after you get used
MacBook is fast, feels very solid and sturdy, thin and has bright LED display with vivid colors and fast graphics. Some people are complaining about the glossy screen; but I found glare a problem only with bright light facing the screen. Battery life is decent, about 4 hours. Self adjusting screen brightness, depending upon ambient light, does not work very well and I had to turn it off. Backlit keyboard is excellent. You will like large multi-touch track pad after you get used
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I have the earlier black macbook 2.16ghz/1gb/160gb and it has been solid and an exceptional computer since i upgraded from a powerbook g4 1gz titanium that was over 4yo. A lot of people complain about macs being too expensive, but if you know anything about apple, they target a specific market who can afford to pay for their premium computers. if you complain that they cost too much, its usually a windows person who are used to paying $500 for a crappy laptop that eventually craps out or is overrun with viruses to a point where nothing works anymore. Another thing that people don't realize is macs retain their value VERY well. I sold my powerbook g4 1ghz titanium for $550 in oct 2007 which originally cost $3k in 11/02(i bought it used for $500 in 12/05). It was still in great condition with no problems when i sold it... it was as fast as my old p4 2.53ghz desktop which has been gathering dust for a while now(i had been a windows user for nearly a decade).
This is my current setup:
Black
This is my current setup:
Black
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I remember the days of the first iBook. That thing was ugly. It was low powered and pretty much sucked. Those days are long gone. The New MacBook is Gorgeous and blazing fast. Some people won't like the changes but I love them. The improved graphics and overall design is fantastic. The glossy screen pops more than the previous model as long as you can avoid glare and the lack of firewire and other useless old ports won't be missed by me. Obviously the MacBook Pro is a better machine and has all the pro features you'd expect. Honestly on this model I'd love to see the DVD drive go away and have more hard drive space and have internet access through the iPhone.
This will not be mistaken for a Dell. Maybe with all the money you save when you buy a Dell you can buy Windows 7 when it comes out, but probably not.
This will not be mistaken for a Dell. Maybe with all the money you save when you buy a Dell you can buy Windows 7 when it comes out, but probably not.
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Why not 5 stars? well first is the price. I would love to seen the price at $1499 because of the 2gigs of ram, I think if it would of come with 4gigs of ram at $1599 that would of been perfect. Next is no firewire! I can see why no 800 port but 400 come on, if apple is killing firewire just do it!
Now the things I like. The screen is LED! when you open the macbook its up and no waiting for the bulb to go to full power. The trackpad will take sometime to get used to, but its big, fells very nice, and smooth! keyboard is big, backlight is bright, I do miss the num keys. The superdrive is quiet and fells the about the same speed.
I have 2 things that I love. The macbook does not get HOT! I'm writing this and the temp is 115F , and the fan rpm is 1999 so quiet. Next is the weight it is 4.5lbs I don't know why you would buy a macbook air now. for 1.5lbs you get superdrive, changeable battery, up to 4gigs of ram, bigger hard drive, and it fells almost as small as the macbook air.
Now the things I like. The screen is LED! when you open the macbook its up and no waiting for the bulb to go to full power. The trackpad will take sometime to get used to, but its big, fells very nice, and smooth! keyboard is big, backlight is bright, I do miss the num keys. The superdrive is quiet and fells the about the same speed.
I have 2 things that I love. The macbook does not get HOT! I'm writing this and the temp is 115F , and the fan rpm is 1999 so quiet. Next is the weight it is 4.5lbs I don't know why you would buy a macbook air now. for 1.5lbs you get superdrive, changeable battery, up to 4gigs of ram, bigger hard drive, and it fells almost as small as the macbook air.
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Apple's site and other reviews provide the essential information on what was upgraded in this new MacBook Pro (two graphics systems; machined from solid aluminum; new industry-standard DisplayPort video out; new trackpad; other minor changes/upgrades).
But why get this computer rather than the much less expensive MacBook that appears almost identical?
1. The MacBook LCD display is poor. It is not just a smaller version of the MacBook Pro LCD display. It has washed-out blacks, poor contrast, limited viewing angles, and less vibrant colors. This is a huge difference. I confirmed this with a side by side comparison in the Apple Store (and the store staff member agreed), and you can find further discussion at gizmodo dot com (gizmodo.com/5063492/macbook-and-macbook-pro-dual-review).
2. The MacBook Pro's excellent new graphics chip (NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT) can be used to speed up all operations (not just graphics) when the new Apple operating system (Snow Leopard) is released in January.
But why get this computer rather than the much less expensive MacBook that appears almost identical?
1. The MacBook LCD display is poor. It is not just a smaller version of the MacBook Pro LCD display. It has washed-out blacks, poor contrast, limited viewing angles, and less vibrant colors. This is a huge difference. I confirmed this with a side by side comparison in the Apple Store (and the store staff member agreed), and you can find further discussion at gizmodo dot com (gizmodo.com/5063492/macbook-and-macbook-pro-dual-review).
2. The MacBook Pro's excellent new graphics chip (NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT) can be used to speed up all operations (not just graphics) when the new Apple operating system (Snow Leopard) is released in January.
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Apple is notorious for constantly updating their products, more or less to keep up the status quo on their products. The new Macbook Pro is no exception. This beautifully constructed laptop is a work of art in many ways in which i will detail.
SCREEN
The MBP has had a beautiful screen for as long as i can remember and this new model is no exception. LED lit means that it is "instant on". when you open the lid, there is no warm up time like there is with other screens like LCD ect. The colors pop and are extremely vibrant and true. If you have seen an older MBP screen, you've seen them both, kind of. The new screen is all glass. The glass extends to the very outer edge of the lid, leaving no empty space. Simply put, you can't find a better screen, not even on a Sony machine (and i love sony also).
KEYBOARD
The new MBP has an updated keyboard. The first thing you will notice is that the keys are black as apposed to the old silver. The black adds a nice touch because it accents
SCREEN
The MBP has had a beautiful screen for as long as i can remember and this new model is no exception. LED lit means that it is "instant on". when you open the lid, there is no warm up time like there is with other screens like LCD ect. The colors pop and are extremely vibrant and true. If you have seen an older MBP screen, you've seen them both, kind of. The new screen is all glass. The glass extends to the very outer edge of the lid, leaving no empty space. Simply put, you can't find a better screen, not even on a Sony machine (and i love sony also).
KEYBOARD
The new MBP has an updated keyboard. The first thing you will notice is that the keys are black as apposed to the old silver. The black adds a nice touch because it accents
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